From ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com Mon May 1 00:25:38 2006 From: ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com (ottawa animal advocates) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 20:25:38 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC demo Message-ID: <003c01c66cb5$c5e88c30$da5f8b48@Victoria> Can I get confirmation that the KFC demo is 100% for sure for Sat May 27? I would like to post it. Also what time 12-2pm..so we still get the end of the garage sale crowd or a bit earlier from 11am-1pm? I suggest two hours instead of just one since everyone will be there already and we could get more done. People who have to leave after an hour could still do so..(?) Perhaps Michele and/or Kyle could make a final decision and also post a meeting time if you want to have a pre-demo meeting..both of you seem to have made the most input on this so far...I'm good for May 7th/evening at the Green Door. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060430/efde0ed9/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 940 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060430/efde0ed9/attachment.gif From v at vaalea.com Tue May 2 13:20:44 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 09:20:44 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Wild Oat - garage sale veg table References: <003c01c66cb5$c5e88c30$da5f8b48@Victoria> Message-ID: <034b01c66deb$3a668fe0$6500a8c0@v> .... does anyone know Wild Oat people well enough to ask if we could buy some power off of them and set up outside of their place during the garage sale? I seem to recall other charity info tables across the street from there during the garage sale last year.... We could potentially just set it up in front of my place, but I think right on Bank Street where Wild Oat is would get ALOT more traffic... Anyone know of any "rules" with doing something like this... ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060502/30e91ebc/attachment.html From mta at magma.ca Wed May 3 23:02:47 2006 From: mta at magma.ca (Michele) Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 19:02:47 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC demo meeting Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060503190058.01a6ae30@magma.ca> I have only heard from 2 people who can make it to the Green Door at 5PM this coming Sunday. We will be there, so hopefully everyone else interested in finalizing the plans for the KFC demo. From dpayne at casott.on.ca Wed May 3 23:27:10 2006 From: dpayne at casott.on.ca (dpayne at casott.on.ca) Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 19:27:10 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC demo meeting In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060429160311.01aaa820@magma.ca> Message-ID: I will be there - but I am one of the two people already mentioned by Michele. Hope to see a lot of you so we can all connect! Michele To 03/05/2006 07:02 Kyle den Bak , PM "vaalea" cc "Kayla Rideout" , "Jane Kearnan" , "Victoria Good" , "Noah Soroka" , <4animals at ottawaveg.com>, "Abbott Tracey" , "Tasya F" , "Frank" , "Simon Chan" , "Diana Payne" , smehvari at yahoo.ca Subject KFC demo meeting I have only heard from 2 people who can make it to the Green Door at 5PM this coming Sunday. We will be there, so hopefully everyone else interested in finalizing the plans for the KFC demo. From simon_vegetarian at hotmail.com Thu May 4 03:07:34 2006 From: simon_vegetarian at hotmail.com (Simon Chan) Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 23:07:34 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC demo meeting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll try my best to make it for 5pm... but I've got this new job that screams manual labour and they need the immigrant kid to do all the hard work... AHAHAHAHAH!!! OH MAN, I'm bad... ANYWAYS, yeah ill try my best to make it... Simon >From: dpayne at casott.on.ca >To: Michele >CC: 4animals at ottawaveg.com, Kyle den Bak , >"Frank" , "Jane Kearnan" >, "Noah Soroka" , > "Kayla Rideout" , "Simon Chan" >, smehvari at YAHOO.CA, "Tasya F" >, "Abbott Tracey" >, "vaalea" , "Victoria >Good" >Subject: Re: KFC demo meeting >Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 19:27:10 -0400 > > > > > > >I will be there - but I am one of the two people already mentioned by >Michele. Hope to see a lot of you so we can all connect! > > > > Michele > > To > 03/05/2006 07:02 Kyle den Bak , > PM "vaalea" > cc > "Kayla Rideout" > , "Jane Kearnan" > , > "Victoria Good" > , "Noah Soroka" > , > <4animals at ottawaveg.com>, "Abbott > Tracey" > , > "Tasya F" , > "Frank" , > "Simon Chan" > , > "Diana Payne" > , > smehvari at yahoo.ca > Subject > KFC demo meeting > > > > > > > > > > >I have only heard from 2 people who can make it to the Green Door at >5PM this coming Sunday. We will be there, so hopefully everyone else >interested in finalizing the plans for the KFC demo. > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft? SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. From edandrea at magma.ca Thu May 11 12:34:33 2006 From: edandrea at magma.ca (Edelweiss D'Andrea) Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 08:34:33 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC demo In-Reply-To: <003c01c66cb5$c5e88c30$da5f8b48@Victoria> Message-ID: Hello, I'm interested in attending the KFC demo. Is it still on? Best regards, Edelweiss -----Original Message----- From: 4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com [mailto:4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com]On Behalf Of ottawa animal advocates Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:26 PM To: 4animals Subject: [4animals] KFC demo Can I get confirmation that the KFC demo is 100% for sure for Sat May 27? I would like to post it. Also what time 12-2pm..so we still get the end of the garage sale crowd or a bit earlier from 11am-1pm? I suggest two hours instead of just one since everyone will be there already and we could get more done. People who have to leave after an hour could still do so..(?) Perhaps Michele and/or Kyle could make a final decision and also post a meeting time if you want to have a pre-demo meeting..both of you seem to have made the most input on this so far...I'm good for May 7th/evening at the Green Door. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060511/755c0812/attachment.html From ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com Sun May 14 18:01:00 2006 From: ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com (ottawa animal advocates) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:01:00 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC protest Message-ID: <003301c67780$5bed37b0$da5f8b48@Victoria> I am not an official co-ordinator for this but I was at the meeting and we agreed that the protest would be on: * Saturday May 27th * from 12pm-2pm * in front of the Glebe KFC, 690 Bank street Here's a few more details from the last OAA update: The 'Great Glebe Garage Sale' will be on during this time so it should be a good opportunity to raise awareness. Please note that the protest is scheduled for two hours since some people have expressed an interest in longer events and since we're already there we could get more accomplished. However if you can only stay one hour that's fine too! All materials will be provided. We will have the 'CHICKEN' out- and possibly kicking a large bucket... *** If anyone can help to ADVERTISE the protest that would be great! You can download and print off KFC Posters at http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/pdfs/KFCdemoflier300.pdf and post them at busy locations. The date, time and the tabs on the bottom of the posters can be filled out based on the time/date/location above. For the contact person you may use: edenbak at hotmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060514/0ac21a6a/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 940 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060514/0ac21a6a/attachment.gif From edenbak at hotmail.com Mon May 15 17:05:46 2006 From: edenbak at hotmail.com (Kyle den Bak) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:05:46 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFCruelty In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Colin, The KFC demonstration is taking place on Saturday May 27 from 12pm - 2pm. This is the same day as the Great Glebe Garage sale, so we are expecting to reach many people. We are protesting KFC's reluctance to support the more humane rearing and slaughter methods that other major fast food chains have. KFCs decision not to take even the most minimal steps to improve the conditions of its chickens typifies the modern speciesist mindset that sees animals as nothing more than machines for turning low cost feed into high cost meat. The demonstration is to inform people of the abuses that KFC knowingly supports some of the worst abuses in the meat industry in order to provide them with the cheapest possible chicken flesh. We hope to create a KFC boycott or, at best, promote the complete abstention of all products produced through the cruel abuse and exploitation of animals. You can read more about KFCs abuses at www.KentuckyFriedCruelty.com. The theme of the protest is "Kick The Bucket". We will have materials for distribution and posters to wave, so at the very least all you have to do is show up - and bring as many people as you like! However, we will welcome your own creativity, should you choose to make a poster. I have forwarded your email to those concerned with the protest, so that you will receive all email updates. Thanks for caring! I hope to see you out. Kyle On 14-May-06, at 5:14 PM, Colin Unsworth wrote: > Hey so whats the deal with the KFC cruelty rally? when/where is it? > one of my roomates told me about it and im so down. All he gave me was > this contact...... > > let me know ! > > Colin > > _________________________________________________________________ > Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special > stationery, fonts and colors. > http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ > prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ > enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? > Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. > From mta at magma.ca Mon May 15 21:34:01 2006 From: mta at magma.ca (Michele) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:34:01 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC demo update In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060515172141.01aaa6b0@magma.ca> Just wanted to update anyone who is participating in the demo (or thinking about doing so). I have obtained a pair of crutches to go along with the chicken costume. I also have the permit secured through the City, and the police are also aware of the demo. The demo pack from PETA should be arriving this week, so we will have our ready-made signs, etc, and I have a couple of letter-sized photos (one of a baby chick's beak being cut off, one of several dead chickens hanging at the slaughterhouse) to tape/glue onto the more plain-looking signs. I have given a few of the demo announcements out in my community, but am not sure if they will get posted - they had to get approved first, and of course everywhere I went, the person in charge of that was not present. I hope other people are having more luck with that. The media information is being put together, and we have sent an announcement to the "Metro" paper, which gets distributed all over the city for free. The only thing we did not end up discussing at the Green Door the other day was slogans to shout out - I have some ideas after doing the demo with PETA in Toronto, but I am sure you guys have some good stuff too - maybe something to go along with the Kick the Bucket theme. Does anyone have a mega-phone? That can really get people's attention if we want to. If I have left anything out, or if anyone has some other ideas that will make the demo even better, please let me know. Thanks! Michele At 01:05 PM 15/05/2006, Kyle den Bak wrote: >Hello Colin, > The KFC demonstration is taking place > on Saturday May 27 from 12pm - >2pm. This is the same day as the Great Glebe Garage sale, so we are >expecting to reach many people. We are protesting KFC's reluctance to >support the more humane rearing and slaughter methods that other major >fast food chains have. KFCs decision not to take even the most minimal >steps to improve the conditions of its chickens typifies the modern >speciesist mindset that sees animals as nothing more than machines for >turning low cost feed into high cost meat. The demonstration is to >inform people of the abuses that KFC knowingly supports some of the >worst abuses in the meat industry in order to provide them with the >cheapest possible chicken flesh. We hope to create a KFC boycott or, at >best, promote the complete abstention of all products produced through >the cruel abuse and exploitation of animals. You can read more about >KFCs abuses at www.KentuckyFriedCruelty.com. > > The theme of the protest is "Kick The > Bucket". We will have materials >for distribution and posters to wave, so at the very least all you have >to do is show up - and bring as many people as you like! However, we >will welcome your own creativity, should you choose to make a poster. I >have forwarded your email to those concerned with the protest, so that >you will receive all email updates. > > Thanks for caring! I hope to see you out. > >Kyle > > > > >On 14-May-06, at 5:14 PM, Colin Unsworth wrote: > >>Hey so whats the deal with the KFC cruelty rally? when/where is it? >>one of my roomates told me about it and im so down. All he gave me was >>this contact...... >> >>let me know ! >> >>Colin >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special >>stationery, fonts and colors. >>http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/ >>prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/ >>enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? >>Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. > > > From ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com Tue May 16 02:32:13 2006 From: ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com (ottawa animal advocates) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:32:13 -0400 Subject: [4animals] PETA in town this Thurs and Fri, volunteers urgently needed to wear sheep costume.. Message-ID: <001d01c67890$f0c05c80$da5f8b48@Victoria> URGENT!! This was a last minute thing for PETA aswell, hence the short notice... To summarize, the Prime Minister of Australia will be in town and at various events on these two days. The issue is that 'disposable' Australian sheep that are too old to produce wool are being shipped by boat to Middle Eastern countries like Egypt, Kuwait, Jordan etc. The animals are usually already old and then exposed to weeks of travel with no food or water and a large number of them arrive dead at the destination. The unlucky ones that are barely alive are essentially dragged off the ships and as undercover footage has shown and 'processed' in horrific ways while still concious. Australia ALREADY has the facilities to 'process' the sheep in a presumably 'slightly' more humane way and mainly this would avoid the torture of the travel and the aftermath in these countries. PETA will either be flying a rep in or locating someone from Montreal to speak to media about the issue but a 'Sheep' is needed to trail and presumably embarass the P.M on his roundabouts.I was also assured that the media rep and the costume wearer would not enter any buildings without authority and the costumes offer FULL body coverage. I am prepared to fill in one of these time slots, but they really need help with the others!! Please get back to me asap if you can help. Volunteers are URGENTLY needed for the following time slots: Thursday > 7:30am- before and after he adresses the House of Commons- to approximately 10:30am (3 hrs) involves hanging around the Parliament buildings. Friday > 7:30am- before and during a 'ceremony' at the War Memorial by the Chateau Laurier for about two hours involves hanging around the War memorial monument. 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Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 940 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060515/529997a7/attachment.gif From edenbak at hotmail.com Wed May 17 16:38:17 2006 From: edenbak at hotmail.com (Kyle den Bak) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 12:38:17 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC demo location In-Reply-To: <20060517023138.04CBE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20060517023138.04CBE3384B@ws7-3.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I'm sorry, the demonstration will be taking place at the KFC in the Glebe, located on Bank and Glebe St., beside the old Phase 2. Kyle On 16-May-06, at 10:31 PM, Dylan Cashion wrote: > Colin, > > I noticed that Kyle failed to mention the location of the protest in > his reply. I gather that it is in the Glebe somewhere...but I don't > know where. Maybe when he reads this...he will let you know. > > Dylan > > ------------------------ > > At 01:05 PM 15/05/2006, Kyle den Bak wrote: >> Hello Colin, >> The KFC demonstration is taking place on Saturday May 27 from >> 12pm - >> 2pm. This is the same day as the Great Glebe Garage sale, so we are >> expecting to reach many people. We are protesting KFC's reluctance to >> support the more humane rearing and slaughter methods that other major >> fast food chains have. KFCs decision not to take even the most minimal >> steps to improve the conditions of its chickens typifies the modern >> speciesist mindset that sees animals as nothing more than machines for >> turning low cost feed into high cost meat. The demonstration is to >> inform people of the abuses that KFC knowingly supports some of the >> worst abuses in the meat industry in order to provide them with the >> cheapest possible chicken flesh. We hope to create a KFC boycott or, >> at >> best, promote the complete abstention of all products produced through >> the cruel abuse and exploitation of animals. You can read more about >> KFCs abuses at www.KentuckyFriedCruelty.com. >> >> The theme of the protest is "Kick The Bucket". We will have >> materials >> for distribution and posters to wave, so at the very least all you >> have >> to do is show up - and bring as many people as you like! However, we >> will welcome your own creativity, should you choose to make a poster. >> I >> have forwarded your email to those concerned with the protest, so that >> you will receive all email updates. >> >> Thanks for caring! I hope to see you out. >> >> Kyle >> >> >> >> >> On 14-May-06, at 5:14 PM, Colin Unsworth wrote: >> >>> Hey so whats the deal with the KFC cruelty rally? when/where is it? >>> one of my roomates told me about it and im so down. All he gave me >>> was >>> this contact...... >>> >>> let me know ! >>> >>> Colin > > > -- _______________________________________________ > > Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos > Yellow Pages > > http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/ > default.asp?SRC=lycos10 > From ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com Wed May 17 20:46:46 2006 From: ottawa.animal.advocates at rogers.com (ottawa animal advocates) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:46:46 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC demo Message-ID: <000701c679f3$03c2cdf0$da5f8b48@Victoria> That's great about the crutches for the chicken. That always helps to get the point across and I think it might make things appear more serious than having the chicken kicking a bucket around. 'Kick the Bucket' is great for signs though I think. I was just wondering if someone was taking care of asking PETA to post the demo to the Ottawa mailing list and also if there will be enough KFC leaflets because I don't have that many left after all. Also, if there are lots of people from the garage sale, I guess we'd need alot of them. Also, Michele, you suggested at the meeting about encouraging people to call the Canadian CEO for KFC. I'm not sure if calling his home would be preferable to his office because they would be more likely to suspect activists and I think it might be better for us to come across as (former) customers. Also for the same reason maybe we could all commit to calling once a week for the next two weeks as though we had just heard about KFC's cruelty and dishonesty to the public...I still think it's a really good idea. -Victoria -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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KFC protest * This Saturday, May 27th * From 12pm to 2pm * At the Glebe KFC, 690 Bank Street The 'Great Glebe Garage Sale' will be on during this time so it should be a good opportunity to raise awareness. This protest is scheduled for two hours since some people have expressed an interest in staying out longer since we'll already be there and could get more accomplished. However if you can only stay one hour that's fine too! All materials will be provided and the 'CHICKEN' should be walking about with crutches. Needed * Someone who knows HTML to donate a bit of time to help complete the OAA website. * Media Spokesperson, occasional or ongoing, as our previous (fantastic) spokesperson is moving overseas! Please let me know if you can help. Meeting Cancelled Due to insuffucient interest in planning a summer event to raise awareness about factory farming there will not be an upcoming meeting unless I hear back from more people!! Please let me know if you want to help plan a summer demo to help animals sufferring and being tortured in factory farms and related industries... I also thought that people should be aware that....although the events were on weekdays, PETA was only able to find one volunteer to help them with a demo last week. I am aware of how busy everyone is but for a City this size including many students on various AR lists who were contacted, I found that to be quite sad for animals. I just wanted to make it known that the notion of 'someone else will do it" rarely applies in animal rights! That's all for now, -V.S -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060522/d348cabf/attachment.html -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 940 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060522/d348cabf/attachment.gif From edandrea at magma.ca Tue May 23 23:56:02 2006 From: edandrea at magma.ca (Edelweiss D'Andrea) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:56:02 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Reminder KFC Protest etc. In-Reply-To: <003d01c67dc9$dc80b9c0$da5f8b48@Victoria> Message-ID: Hi, I'm willing to be an occasional media spokesperson, Victoria. Although I'm heavily involved in other volunteer activity and need to be careful not to burn out, I would also like to attend a demonstration against factory farming. Edelweiss -----Original Message----- From: 4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com [mailto:4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com]On Behalf Of ottawa animal advocates Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:02 PM To: undisclosed recipient Subject: [4animals] Reminder KFC Protest etc. Film and Discussion > Tuesday May 23rd, > Ottawa Public Library (Metcalfe and Laurier) > Rooms 1A and 1B > 7pm- 9:30pm The Council of Canadians presentsGeorge Orwells' "Animal Farm" cartoon version plus topic of discussion: " Are some animals becoming even more equal than others?" Call 820-0701 or 749-3379 for more information. KFC protest * This Saturday, May 27th * From 12pm to 2pm * At the Glebe KFC, 690 Bank Street The 'Great Glebe Garage Sale' will be on during this time so it should be a good opportunity to raise awareness. This protest is scheduled for two hours since some people have expressed an interest in staying out longer since we'll already be there and could get more accomplished. However if you can only stay one hour that's fine too! All materials will be provided and the 'CHICKEN' should be walking about with crutches. Needed * Someone who knows HTML to donate a bit of time to help complete the OAA website. * Media Spokesperson, occasional or ongoing, as our previous (fantastic) spokesperson is moving overseas! Please let me know if you can help. Meeting Cancelled Due to insuffucient interest in planning a summer event to raise awareness about factory farming there will not be an upcoming meeting unless I hear back from more people!! Please let me know if you want to help plan a summer demo to help animals sufferring and being tortured in factory farms and related industries... I also thought that people should be aware that....although the events were on weekdays, PETA was only able to find one volunteer to help them with a demo last week. I am aware of how busy everyone is but for a City this size including many students on various AR lists who were contacted, I found that to be quite sad for animals. I just wanted to make it known that the notion of 'someone else will do it" rarely applies in animal rights! That's all for now, -V.S ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/4animals/attachments/20060523/1ad4f7a6/attachment.html From edenbak at hotmail.com Thu May 25 03:23:05 2006 From: edenbak at hotmail.com (Kyle den Bak) Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:23:05 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC Demo Message-ID: Hey folks, I just wanted to ask if we are planning to congregate somewhere before the protest, or are we just meeting at the location? It might be best to get together somewhere beforehand, so if anyone is early the don't have to be stranded in from of the KFC by themselves.... I put up about 200 posters a couple of weeks ago, with much success. When I checked back on them a couple of days later, many tabs were ripped off, so I hope that means we will have a decent turnout. I decided not to make the oversized KFC bucket, since the consensus seems to be that the Chicken kicking the big bucket is a silly idea. :( Cheers, Kyle From mta at magma.ca Thu May 25 11:20:37 2006 From: mta at magma.ca (Michele) Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:20:37 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC Demo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.0.20060525071610.01ab9cb0@magma.ca> That is probably a good idea about congregating somewhere else - Diana is going to drop me off with all the supplies, including the crutches and DVD player, so I will be waiting somewhere until she finds a place to park, and it does have the potential to be uncomfortable :) It would have to be somewhere close enough though that we didn't have to lug things too far. Let me know a good place (I am just not very familiar enough with the area to think of a spot, but if you give me an address, I can get there no problem). Looks like we're going to get some great weather for the demo! Kyle, that's fantastic about all the posters you put up!! I would certainly hope that we get a good response from that! Michele At 11:23 PM 24/05/2006, Kyle den Bak wrote: >Hey folks, > > I just wanted to ask if we are planning to congregate > somewhere before the protest, or are we just meeting at the > location? It might be best to get together somewhere beforehand, so > if anyone is early the don't have to be stranded in from of the KFC > by themselves.... > > I put up about 200 posters a couple of weeks ago, with > much success. When I checked back on them a couple of days later, > many tabs were ripped off, so I hope that means we will have a decent turnout. > > I decided not to make the oversized KFC bucket, since the > consensus seems to be that the Chicken kicking the big bucket is a > silly idea. :( > >Cheers, >Kyle > > From edandrea at magma.ca Thu May 25 17:35:50 2006 From: edandrea at magma.ca (Edelweiss D'Andrea) Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:35:50 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC Demo In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.0.20060525071610.01ab9cb0@magma.ca> Message-ID: I'm going to print out copies of information about KFC clearcutting Amazonian rainforest to grow feed for chickens. KFC are cruel to their chickens, they make people overweight with their saturated-fat-intensive food, and they deforest the Amazonian rainforest, leading to the loss of rick rainforest biodiversity and the displacement of local communities who depend on the forest for their livelihoods. I attended a lecture last night by David Suzuki, who described how he worked with native people fro the Brazilian rainforest, who are fighting valiantly, generation after generation, to get permanent protection for their land. The North American native people see that the Brazilian indigenous people are fighting the same fight their ancestors did hundreds of years ago, and they give generously (many native people are poor) and travel to Brazil to support their demonstrations against the Brazilian government. I hope you don't mind my bringing information about rainforest deforestation. It's another way to get people to stop buying KFC. Edelweiss -----Original Message----- From: 4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com [mailto:4animals-bounces at ottawaveg.com]On Behalf Of Michele Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 7:21 AM To: Kyle den Bak; vaalea; Jane Kearnan; 4animals at ottawaveg.com; Simon Chan; Tasya F; Frank; Diana Payne; Abbott Tracey; Victoria Good; Kayla Rideout Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC Demo That is probably a good idea about congregating somewhere else - Diana is going to drop me off with all the supplies, including the crutches and DVD player, so I will be waiting somewhere until she finds a place to park, and it does have the potential to be uncomfortable :) It would have to be somewhere close enough though that we didn't have to lug things too far. Let me know a good place (I am just not very familiar enough with the area to think of a spot, but if you give me an address, I can get there no problem). Looks like we're going to get some great weather for the demo! Kyle, that's fantastic about all the posters you put up!! I would certainly hope that we get a good response from that! Michele At 11:23 PM 24/05/2006, Kyle den Bak wrote: >Hey folks, > > I just wanted to ask if we are planning to congregate > somewhere before the protest, or are we just meeting at the > location? It might be best to get together somewhere beforehand, so > if anyone is early the don't have to be stranded in from of the KFC > by themselves.... > > I put up about 200 posters a couple of weeks ago, with > much success. When I checked back on them a couple of days later, > many tabs were ripped off, so I hope that means we will have a decent turnout. > > I decided not to make the oversized KFC bucket, since the > consensus seems to be that the Chicken kicking the big bucket is a > silly idea. :( > >Cheers, >Kyle > > _______________________________________________ 4animals mailing list 4animals at ottawaveg.com http://lists.ottawaveg.com/mailman/listinfo/4animals From edenbak at hotmail.com Sat May 27 04:11:19 2006 From: edenbak at hotmail.com (Kyle den Bak) Date: Sat, 27 May 2006 00:11:19 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Meeting Place Message-ID: Hello all, I know this comes at a late hour, but I think I will be waiting in the park in the glebe, a little past the LCBO in the Glebe if you are heading north, at approximately 11:45 am. This spot is really close to the demo location, so it seems like a good place to meet. If anyone wants to meet me there, I will leave from there to be at the demo site for 12:00 pm. Hope to see everyone out! Cheers, Kyle From v at vaalea.com Mon May 29 23:47:10 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 19:47:10 -0400 Subject: [4animals] KFC and bird brains References: Message-ID: <00ec01c6837a$35792b60$6500a8c0@v> So I'm waiting to hear the official report on the KFC protest.... and see pictures!! until then, there was some discussion about the intelligence of birds/chickens when we were packing up, and so I share with you the following (and a few other animal stories...): I once saw on America's Funniest Home Videos, a little bird on a dock with some bread crumbs... but instead of eating them, the bird would pick them up, bring them down to a beam near the water, and drop it in, poking it around a little. Inevitably a little fish spotted the breadcrumb and went for an easy meal, at which point it was nabbed by the bird. This bird had turned a little meal of crumbs into a bigger meal of fish! Bird Brains http://www.pbs.org/lifeofbirds/brain/ Breaking the code on chicken clucks http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15609/15609-10.pdf Study: Chickens Think About Future http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050711/chicken.html Chicken Talk http://www.upc-online.org/stories/chicken_talk.html Chicken Intelligence http://www.chickenindustry.com/cfi/intelligence/ ""Certainly they have a genetic predisposition, but they also have intelligence rarely nurtured by humans." When it is nurtured, the results are often surprising." http://www.vivavegie.org/vvi/vva/vvi7/vvi7-2.html The Hidden Lives of Chickens http://www.goveg.com/f-hiddenliveschickens.asp Gay storks make good parents http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1853621.html?menu= Budgie wins cross-stitching award http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1673449.html?menu=news.quirkies.animaltales Parrot helped catch robbers http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1458355.html?menu=news.quirkies.animaltales ... Humour is also not only the province of humans. Chimps mock, dogs tease and parrots provoke. When asked to identify the colour of a white towel held up by a teacher, a gorilla named Koko repeatedly signed "red". Then, grinning, she plucked off a bit of red lint clinging to the towel, held it up to the trainer's face and signed "red" again. What are the implications for humankind's relationship to animals when we acknowledge and embrace the richness of their sensory experience of their worlds? It is convenient and economical to exclude animals from our sphere of moral concern - as we do, for example, in the meat, biomedical research, and fur industries. But is it right? To the degree that animals can enjoy life, we may conclude that our moral obligations to them are greater. We may have no obligation to provide pleasure to another, but actively depriving them the opportunity to fulfil natural pleasures - as we do when we cage or kill them - is another matter. http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,,1785215,00.html From v at vaalea.com Tue May 30 18:37:36 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:37:36 -0400 Subject: [4animals] Re: KFC and bird brains Message-ID: <025e01c68418$234bce90$6500a8c0@v> I'm forwarding this email because I reduced the picture sizes attached... (original email was 15021kb) ----- Original Message ----- From: Michele To: vaalea ; Jane Kearnan ; 4animals at ottawaveg.com ; Noah Soroka ; Simon Chan ; Tasya F ; Frank ; Diana Payne ; Abbott Tracey ; Victoria Good Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 1:46 PM Subject: Re: KFC and bird brains Here are the photos that I managed to get. I think others may have taken some too... As for the official report, unfortunately there was no media coverage despite faxing out media releases to the 2 main papers and 2 local tv stations, as well as about 4 local radio stations. However, I would estimate that we gave out about 500 leaflets (I think I had about 300, and there were at least 2 others with a stack of leaflets each), so if you consider that some groups of 2-4 people took just one flyer for the group, and if you consider the large number of people who didn't take a leaflet but cheered as they drove by, I would say the message got out to a very LARGE audience. I heard a lot of positive feedback from passers by, and even though there were some negative comments, I don't think that was the sentiment of the majority. Even though those people seemed to have the loudest voices, I don't think that should be how we measure our success at having gotten the message across. There will always be people who will stick to their opinions no matter how convincing we try to be - I don't think it's worth the time and effort talking to those groups of people, and I would just ignore the dumb comments made by the small number of uninformed and ignorant people (I would especially ignore Mr. "I used to work there" and "get your facts straight" guy!!!) I think we should be proud of what we accomplished. I want to thank everyone who helped out, no matter how big or small the task. It was all needed to pull this off, and I just appreciate everything you all did. Thanks to Kyle for being brave with the mega-phone - you did a fantastic job! Thank you to Frank for literally sweating it out in the chicken costume - you really got the point across. Thanks to everyone who put up posters in advance, made and/or held signs, handed out leaflets, shouted out some chants, or talked to those who wanted to hear more! I look forward to future demonstrations with you! Michele Thorn At 07:47 PM 29/05/2006, vaalea wrote: So I'm waiting to hear the official report on the KFC protest.... and see pictures!! until then, there was some discussion about the intelligence of birds/chickens when we were packing up, and so I share with you the following (and a few other animal stories...): I once saw on America's Funniest Home Videos, a little bird on a dock with some bread crumbs... but instead of eating them, the bird would pick them up, bring them down to a beam near the water, and drop it in, poking it around a little. Inevitably a little fish spotted the breadcrumb and went for an easy meal, at which point it was nabbed by the bird. This bird had turned a little meal of crumbs into a bigger meal of fish! Bird Brains http://www.pbs.org/lifeofbirds/brain/ Breaking the code on chicken clucks http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15609/15609-10.pdf Study: Chickens Think About Future http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050711/chicken.html Chicken Talk http://www.upc-online.org/stories/chicken_talk.html Chicken Intelligence http://www.chickenindustry.com/cfi/intelligence/ ""Certainly they have a genetic predisposition, but they also have intelligence rarely nurtured by humans." When it is nurtured, the results are often surprising." http://www.vivavegie.org/vvi/vva/vvi7/vvi7-2.html The Hidden Lives of Chickens http://www.goveg.com/f-hiddenliveschickens.asp Gay storks make good parents http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1853621.html?menu= Budgie wins cross-stitching award http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1673449.html?menu=news.quirkies.animaltales Parrot helped catch robbers http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1458355.html?menu=news.quirkies.animaltales ... Humour is also not only the province of humans. Chimps mock, dogs tease and parrots provoke. When asked to identify the colour of a white towel held up by a teacher, a gorilla named Koko repeatedly signed "red". Then, grinning, she plucked off a bit of red lint clinging to the towel, held it up to the trainer's face and signed "red" again. What are the implications for humankind's relationship to animals when we acknowledge and embrace the richness of their sensory experience of their worlds? 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Unless someone would like to e-mail me with other ideas for a venue (feel free) the annual Sparks Street Mall International rib cook-off looks like a good bet. The date for this festival is earlier than last year: >> June 21st to 25th, so unfortunately we would not have too much time to prepare but I think it's possible to still put something together. Some early possible ideas for the demo include: * 'Characters' representing the cruelty of meat eg. DEVIL (we already have a costume), The GRIM REAPER for meat related diseases in humans and a 'sick planet earth' for destruction of the rainforest and other enviromental consequences related to factory farming/ meat consumption. (perhaps a little too involved with the time limits..) * " LETTUCE LADIES AND GUYS" if anyone is willing! (this might be our only close bet for media with factory farming being quite challenging to get coverage for.) * A nearly nude person wrapped in cellophane in a giant 'styrofoam' plate with a grocery store type label entitled 'FLESH'... We are open to other ideas aswell perhaps involving pigs... Reasonable contributions to the cost of supplies/materials could be discussed at a meeting. If you are interested in collaborating on and joining a ribfest demo, please let me know as soon as possible based on the following options, which meeting date to would work for you (it would be great to also indicate if both would work for you...) and we can plan it based on most peoples' availablility. The location would be the Green Door as it seems to be a good meeting place. Option 1) Wednesday June 7th, 7:30pm Option 2) Thursday June 8th, 7:30pm This would likely be the only demo of the summer planned by OAA apart from a possible Shrine Circus protest in August. Thank you! 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