From carol_anne_owen at yahoo.ca Sun Oct 1 12:47:20 2006 From: carol_anne_owen at yahoo.ca (CA Owen) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [VegChat] Vegetarian childcare Message-ID: <20061001124721.56037.qmail@web38810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Has anyone heard of child care providers who are vegetarian or veg-friendly? We are looking for next year for a one-year-old. Carol Anne --------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061001/49b3f6f2/attachment.html From m.faul at sympatico.ca Mon Oct 2 18:58:40 2006 From: m.faul at sympatico.ca (Mark Faul) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:58:40 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Raw News Message-ID: <45216160.5040602@sympatico.ca> Hi everyone, CBC News was at the SimplyRaw potluck last Friday (Sept 29) conducting some interviews, and also chatting with Natasha today for a news story that will run tomorrow evening - Tuesday Oct 2 between 6:30-7:00 on CBC National News! Be sure to check it out! Cheers! Mark From v at vaalea.com Tue Oct 3 23:01:38 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:01:38 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Fw: Feed the World Week at Govinda's ... October 10-14 Message-ID: <002701c6e73f$e3c2fb00$958ac5d1@v> ----- Original Message ----- From: Ottawa Rathayathra To: v at vaalea.com Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 2:43 PM Subject: Feed the World Week at Govinda's ... October 10-14 11th Annual Feed the World Week at Govinda's October 10-14, 2006 - 212 Somerset St East, near Ottawa U. Annual event which hightlights the multiple benefits of a vegetarian diet. Free meals served daily - Lunch 12-2pm, or Dinner 5-8pm (Tuesday to Saturday). Donations will be accepted before and throughout the event. All are welcome. To volunteer or for more information call 613.565.6544 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061003/bc87366e/attachment.html From v at vaalea.com Wed Oct 4 01:08:53 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 21:08:53 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] bathroom exhaust fan cleaning? Message-ID: <004c01c6e751$aaa42850$958ac5d1@v> totally not related to veg.. unless clean-healthy indoor air counts... but I think this is the best place to ask - lots of people who know lots of things.... =0) just moved and we are cleaning everything that looks like it hasn't been cleaned in ages... those little things that people forget about - or don't bother with. the bathroom exhaust fan (motor and fan wheel) is no longer simply vacuumable... and is also difficult to clean - I guess I'm lacking the correct tools... is there some place that can take it apart and clean it (mostly just get that wheel off to soak and be able then to reach around the motor area)? pref downtown/glebe area? or any other ideas? people with knowledge of such things feel free to contact me directly... I may have other house-cleaning questions... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061003/144e934c/attachment.html From edandrea at magma.ca Fri Oct 6 00:32:50 2006 From: edandrea at magma.ca (Edelweiss D'Andrea) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:32:50 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] STOP CLIMATE CHAOS:STOP THE WAR ON TERRA Message-ID: STOP CLIMATE CHAOS STOP THE WAR ON TERRA GLOBAL DAY OF ACTION ON NOVEMBER 4, 2006 The world's emerging scientific consensus is that we have less than ten years to stop climate chaos. Climate change is already claiming the lives of 150,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization, which points out that number could double within 30 years if we don't take action now. On November 4, 2006, people in at least 45 countries around the world will rise to the challenge of the climate crisis, as part of a global day of action to save the planet. ACT for the Earth and the Climate Chaos Coalition are calling for demonstrations throughout Canada on November 4 to demand immediate action to save the climate, and encouraging climate contingents to join the peace demonstrations on October 28. The international protest comes on the eve of the next round of UN climate talks in Nairobi, Kenya. The last round of talks were met with hundreds of thousands of people in 30 countries around the world taking to the streets to demand action, including over 40,000 people in Montreal, Canada, where the meeting took place. This next round of protests is expected to be even larger and broader, as people around the world are literally feeling the heat. When it comes to the climate crisis and wars for oil, the Canadian government has been following the shameful and dangerously misguided (or misunderestimated) lead of George W. Bush and company. Stephen Harper is endangering the planet and humanity in the process. With Canada currently chairing the international UN meeting, broad and widespread protests across the country are more crucial than ever before. Time is Running Out... Everywhere in the world today the impacts of climate change are being felt. Despite the impression the media often leaves - that there is still a question about whether climate change is happening - there is little doubt in the international scientific community. Glaciers and permafrost are melting. Oceans are rising. Smog is increasing. Ocean and air current patterns are changing. Hurricanes are becoming more frequent, and more deadly. All of these problems are being caused by a rise in global temperatures. The rise in temperature is being caused by our increased burning of fossil fuels, and Canada's war in Afghanistan supports the Bush agenda to control oil resources in the mid-east and central Asia. The Climate Crisis Coalition in the U.S., which helped organize a peace, climate change, and civil rights protest of over 300,000 people in New York on April 29, makes clear the need to connect global warming to human rights, labour, peace, faith, sustainable business practices, environmental justice and many other issues. We need to take this to heart. Climate change is no just an environmental issue ? it is everyone's issue. And on November 4 we need to unite to send a strong message. It is not yet too late, but time is running out... No more oil wars ? clean energy now! Endorsed by: The Canadian Peace Alliance, www.acp-cpa.ca Greenpeace, www.greenpeace.ca To endorse / participate: www.actfortheearth.org/climatechaos, 647-436-6398 climatechaos at actfortheearth.org For more information on the Climate Crisis Movement: www.climateactionnetwork.ca www.globalclimatecampaign.org _______________________________________________ Climate-matters mailing list Climate-matters at list.climateactionnetwork.ca http://list.climateactionnetwork.ca/mailman/listinfo/climate-matters From em664 at freenet.carleton.ca Thu Oct 5 11:00:42 2006 From: em664 at freenet.carleton.ca (David Wardell) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 07:00:42 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Consider these enviro issues please. In-Reply-To: <004c01c6e751$aaa42850$958ac5d1@v> References: <004c01c6e751$aaa42850$958ac5d1@v> Message-ID: <4524E5DA.4060400@ncf.ca> Consider, Canada has extensive mining, forestry and industrial agriculture industry. Almost all of this output is for export, to support the needs of populations elseware in the world. This industry causes enviromental impacts on the landscape of Canada as if several hundred million people were living here. The lakes and rivers in Canada are becoming polluted even though there are very few people living here. While this is going on, Canada has almost no enviromental protection laws. And where there are, almost no enforcement is carried out. One recent example when Paul Martin was pri-minister. In the softwood lumber dispute with the United States, Martin anounced that lumber could be exported to China if you can believe that! Clean all the forests out of B.C. to build housing in China? Use Martins Canada Steamship lines to ship the wood I suppose. The basis of the softwood lumber dispute itself? Unlike in the U.S. Canadian lumber companies pay very little for the right to cut trees. For a few thousand dollars paid they get to cut down tens of millions of dollars worth of trees. From stittsville at rogers.com Wed Oct 4 20:26:31 2006 From: stittsville at rogers.com (Anne and Chris) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 16:26:31 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Vegetarian childcare References: <20061001124721.56037.qmail@web38810.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000a01c6e7f3$61145730$6401a8c0@Master> Hi Carol, I asked around my non vegetarian friends and received a number of 'interesting' replies. Today I was sent the most promising. Hope it helps, Anne Sturgeon Tel 613 831 8909 Thought I'd pass this along... just in case you hadn't seen it in the classifieds today! ----- Original Message ----- HOME DAYCARE - Bilingual: Spanish/English Teacher's spouse, mother of one and caregiver has homecare spots available for January '07 for ages 3 and up. Our day will consist of outdoor and indoor play, crafts, reading and singing in a positive, loving environment. Healthy Vegetarian snacks and lunches are provided. The daycare is located in the Hintonburg area within walking distance of various parks. Mothercraft Courses/First Aid and Child CPR Certified. Police check, references and receipts provided. Call Carolina at 613-719-7827 or e-mail at caro_chile at hotmail.com ----- Original Message ----- From: CA Owen To: vegchat at ottawaveg.com Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 8:47 AM Subject: [VegChat] Vegetarian childcare Hi, Has anyone heard of child care providers who are vegetarian or veg-friendly? We are looking for next year for a one-year-old. Carol Anne ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061004/6e04856d/attachment.html From em664 at freenet.carleton.ca Thu Oct 5 10:53:40 2006 From: em664 at freenet.carleton.ca (David Wardell) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:53:40 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Pesticide residue on Canadian food. In-Reply-To: <004c01c6e751$aaa42850$958ac5d1@v> References: <004c01c6e751$aaa42850$958ac5d1@v> Message-ID: <4524E434.6050303@ncf.ca> Canada allows higher pesticide residues on food than in Europe or elseware. Example, for the insecticide methoxychlor Health Canada considers safe residues to be 1,400 times the European limit. Canada is really light years behind other industrialized nations in addressing the health threats posed by pesticides. David Boyd, professor of environmental management, Simon Fraser University. From mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca Thu Oct 12 19:24:54 2006 From: mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca (Meredith Barrett) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [VegChat] movie ideas Message-ID: <4295061.1160681094973.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> Hey Guys I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at Carleton and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus to run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that factory farming has on the environment as well as any other connections between AR issues and the environment. One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your Meat just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about that, if it is too far from our 'theme'. Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! Meredith From dr.dreammaker at gmail.com Sun Oct 15 11:29:25 2006 From: dr.dreammaker at gmail.com (dr.dreammaker) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:29:25 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] movie ideas In-Reply-To: <4295061.1160681094973.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> References: <4295061.1160681094973.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> Message-ID: earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really amazing! kelly. On 10/12/06, Meredith Barrett wrote: > > Hey Guys > > I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that > someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at Carleton > and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus to > run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am > trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that > factory farming has on the environment as well as any other connections > between AR issues and the environment. > One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your Meat > just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about that, if > it is too far from our 'theme'. > Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! > Meredith > -- you won't know what hit you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061015/081fea22/attachment.html From mark at simplyraw.ca Sun Oct 15 19:43:37 2006 From: mark at simplyraw.ca (Mark (SimplyRaw)) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:43:37 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] movie ideas In-Reply-To: References: <4295061.1160681094973.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> Message-ID: <45328F69.4050401@simplyraw.ca> Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! Cheers! Mark dr.dreammaker wrote: > earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really > amazing! > > kelly. > > On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca > > wrote: > > Hey Guys > > I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that > someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at Carleton > and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus to > run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am > trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that > factory farming has on the environment as well as any other connections > between AR issues and the environment. > One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your Meat > just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about that, if > it is too far from our 'theme'. > Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! > Meredith > > > > > -- > you won't know what hit you. From mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca Mon Oct 16 00:28:52 2006 From: mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca (Meredith Barrett) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:28:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? Message-ID: <3370464.1160958532016.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the internet but so far no luck Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: >Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of >eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with >animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! > >Cheers! Mark > >dr.dreammaker wrote: >> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really >> amazing! >> >> kelly. >> >> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca >> > wrote: >> >> Hey Guys >> >> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that >> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at Carleton >> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus to >> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am >> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that >> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other connections >> between AR issues and the environment. >> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your Meat >> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about that, if >> it is too far from our 'theme'. >> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! >> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! >> Meredith >> >> >> >> >> -- >> you won't know what hit you. > > From mark at simplyraw.ca Mon Oct 16 03:05:27 2006 From: mark at simplyraw.ca (Mark (SimplyRaw)) Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 23:05:27 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? In-Reply-To: <3370464.1160958532016.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> References: <3370464.1160958532016.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> Message-ID: <4532F6F7.3040701@simplyraw.ca> check out http://www.ravediet.com/ I can lend you a VHS version if you'd like? Cheers! Mark Meredith Barrett wrote: > sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the > internet but so far no luck > > > Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: > > >> Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of >> eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with >> animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! >> >> Cheers! Mark >> >> dr.dreammaker wrote: >>> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really >>> amazing! >>> >>> kelly. >>> >>> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hey Guys >>> >>> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that >>> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at > Carleton >>> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus > to >>> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am >>> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that >>> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other > connections >>> between AR issues and the environment. >>> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your > Meat >>> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about > that, if >>> it is too far from our 'theme'. >>> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! >>> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! >>> Meredith >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> you won't know what hit you. >> > From v at vaalea.com Mon Oct 16 15:09:39 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:09:39 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] Fw: CLIMATE CALL TO ACTION! - Wed. Oct 18, Ottawa Message-ID: <00a901c6f135$20bc7460$6400a8c0@v> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ben Powless, CYCC" To: Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:42 AM Subject: CLIMATE CALL TO ACTION! - Wed. Oct 18, Ottawa -Please Distribute Widely- (Fran?ais ci-dessous) Join the RALLY against CLIMATE CHANGE! To tell the government we think their response to the climate crisis is wholly inadequate - we need action NOW not more legislation and time wasting! Wednesday, October 18th, 12:00pm Parliament Hill, Ottawa This is in response to the release of the government's Clean Air Act on Tuesday the 17th, another piece of political confusion that won't really deal with climate change. Come show the government you want REAL action to confront the climate crisis! You are invited to come out and join the accompanying rally - BRING BANNERS & SIGNS - OPEN TO ALL! - there will also be a Funeral for the Future to send the message that the government is endangering our future. It is guaranteed to be a fun and exciting protest! See you in the streets! Canadian Youth Climate Coalition (CYCC) - ourclimate.ca This event is supported by the Canadian Youth Climate Coalition, representing tens of thousands of youth and over 60 organizations nationwide. It includes labour groups, student unions, environmental NGO's, Indigenous groups, faith-based groups, and more. Other actions will happen across the country in Toronto, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton, Whitehorse, and Lethbridge. For more info please see the CYCC website: ourclimate.ca or email cycc.ottawa at gmail.com -SVP faire circuler- Joignez-vous ? la MANIFESTATION contre les CHANGEMENTS CLIMATIQUES! Pour faire savoir au gouvernement que leur plan d'action face ? la crise du climat est totalement inacceptable pour nous - il faut des actions MAINTENANT, plut?t que davantage de lois et de pertes de temps! Mercredi, 18 octobre ? midi sur la Colline parlementaire ? Ottawa Il s'agira d'une r?plique au d?voilement du "Clean Air Act" du gouvernement conservateur, qui aura lieu le mardi 17 octobre... cette loi est un autre exemple de politique confuse qui ne fera rien pour adresser la question des changements climatiques. Venez montrer au gouvernement que vous souhaitez de VRAIES actions pour confronter la crise climatique! Vous ?tes invit?(e)s ? participer ? la manifestation - AMENER VOS BANNI?RES ET PANCARTES - TOUS ET TOUTES SONT BIENVENUS! - il y aura aussi un "Requiem pour l'avenir" repr?sentant la menace que notre gouvernement fait peser sur notre avenir. Cette manifestation sera certainement dynamique et amusante! Au plaisir de vous voir dans les rues! Coalition Canadienne des Jeunes pour le Climat notreclimat.ca Cet ?v?nement est appuy? par la Coalition canadienne des jeunes pour le climat, qui repr?sente des dizaines de milliers de jeunes et plus de 60 organismes ? travers le pays. Elle compte parmi ses membres des syndicats, associations ?tudiantes, organismes environnementaux, groupes autochtones, groupes religieux et plus encore. D'autres actions auront lieu en parall?le ? Toronto, Montr?al, Calgary, Edmonton, Whitehorse et Lethbridge. Pour plus d'informations visitez le site Internet notreclimat.ca ou envoyez un courriel ? ccyc.ottawa at gmail.com From pam.mayhew at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 19:12:52 2006 From: pam.mayhew at gmail.com (Pam Mayhew) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:12:52 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? In-Reply-To: <3370464.1160958532016.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> References: <3370464.1160958532016.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> Message-ID: <2be9ae580610171212ia1cec31me1bb9b9043bc9112@mail.gmail.com> Meredith - The Activism Course is showing "Earthling" the Friday before a talk by an animal rights lawyer from Toronto. Are you connected with the Activism Course offered by Ottawa U??? I imagine the OPIRG at Ottawa U might have the film. Good luck! Pam. On 10/15/06, Meredith Barrett wrote: > > sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the > internet but so far no luck > > > Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: > > > >Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of > >eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with > >animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! > > > >Cheers! Mark > > > >dr.dreammaker wrote: > >> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really > >> amazing! > >> > >> kelly. > >> > >> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca > >> > wrote: > >> > >> Hey Guys > >> > >> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that > >> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at > Carleton > >> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus > to > >> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am > >> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that > >> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other > connections > >> between AR issues and the environment. > >> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your > Meat > >> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about > that, if > >> it is too far from our 'theme'. > >> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > >> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! > >> Meredith > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> you won't know what hit you. > > > > > -- Pam Mayhew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061017/ead18eaa/attachment.html From vmh82 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 23 01:29:55 2006 From: vmh82 at hotmail.com (Vanessa H) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:29:55 +0000 Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? In-Reply-To: <2be9ae580610171212ia1cec31me1bb9b9043bc9112@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I would love to see the film and listen to the talk by the animal rights lawyer from Toronto (Lesli Bisgould, I assume?), but I'm not in the class. Does anyone associated with this activism class know if anybody can attend? Thanks so much! >From: "Pam Mayhew" >Reply-To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, environment,etc). >Called & amp; quot; chat& amp; quot;because this is for all kinds >of frequent interaction." >To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, environment,etc). >Called &, amp, quot, chat&, amp, quot,because this is for all kinds >of frequent interaction." >Subject: Re: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:12:52 -0400 > >Meredith - The Activism Course is showing "Earthling" the Friday before a >talk by an animal rights lawyer from Toronto. Are you connected with the >Activism Course offered by Ottawa U??? I imagine the OPIRG at Ottawa U >might have the film. Good luck! Pam. > >On 10/15/06, Meredith Barrett wrote: >> >>sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the >>internet but so far no luck >> >> >>Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: >> >> >> >Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of >> >eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with >> >animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! >> > >> >Cheers! Mark >> > >> >dr.dreammaker wrote: >> >> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really >> >> amazing! >> >> >> >> kelly. >> >> >> >> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey Guys >> >> >> >> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that >> >> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at >>Carleton >> >> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus >>to >> >> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am >> >> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that >> >> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other >>connections >> >> between AR issues and the environment. >> >> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your >>Meat >> >> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about >>that, if >> >> it is too far from our 'theme'. >> >> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! >> >> Meredith >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> you won't know what hit you. >> > >> > >> > > > >-- >Pam Mayhew _________________________________________________________________ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline From uhuman at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 01:01:40 2006 From: uhuman at gmail.com (uHuman) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:01:40 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] The Organic Myth Message-ID: The Organic Myth Pastoral ideals are getting trampled as organic food goes mass market http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_42/b4005001.htm -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061022/b15f460c/attachment.html From edandrea at magma.ca Tue Oct 24 00:49:09 2006 From: edandrea at magma.ca (Edelweiss D'Andrea) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:49:09 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Community members can attend for free: The students who fought for this course and the professor feel very strongly that community involvement is an essential characteristic of this course. Details: November 22, 2006 7 pm Marion Hall Auditorium (MRN AUD), Marion Hall building, 140 Louis Pasteur Street, University of Ottawa main campus. See map: http://www.uottawa.ca/maps/ Lesli Bigould, Animal rights lawyer "Animal rights: Anything goes" Background: http://www.cruelscience.ca/DATA/AnythingGoes.pdf Edelweiss -----Original Message----- From: vegchat-bounces at ottawaveg.com [mailto:vegchat-bounces at ottawaveg.com]On Behalf Of Vanessa H Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 9:30 PM To: vegchat at ottawaveg.com Subject: Re: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? I would love to see the film and listen to the talk by the animal rights lawyer from Toronto (Lesli Bisgould, I assume?), but I'm not in the class. Does anyone associated with this activism class know if anybody can attend? Thanks so much! >From: "Pam Mayhew" >Reply-To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, environment,etc). >Called & amp; quot; chat& amp; quot;because this is for all kinds >of frequent interaction." >To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, environment,etc). >Called &, amp, quot, chat&, amp, quot,because this is for all kinds >of frequent interaction." >Subject: Re: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:12:52 -0400 > >Meredith - The Activism Course is showing "Earthling" the Friday before a >talk by an animal rights lawyer from Toronto. Are you connected with the >Activism Course offered by Ottawa U??? I imagine the OPIRG at Ottawa U >might have the film. Good luck! Pam. > >On 10/15/06, Meredith Barrett wrote: >> >>sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the >>internet but so far no luck >> >> >>Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: >> >> >> >Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of >> >eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with >> >animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! >> > >> >Cheers! Mark >> > >> >dr.dreammaker wrote: >> >> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really >> >> amazing! >> >> >> >> kelly. >> >> >> >> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hey Guys >> >> >> >> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that >> >> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at >>Carleton >> >> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on campus >>to >> >> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I am >> >> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that >> >> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other >>connections >> >> between AR issues and the environment. >> >> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your >>Meat >> >> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about >>that, if >> >> it is too far from our 'theme'. >> >> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! >> >> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! >> >> Meredith >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> you won't know what hit you. >> > >> > >> > > > >-- >Pam Mayhew _________________________________________________________________ Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=h mtagline From pam.mayhew at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 16:48:19 2006 From: pam.mayhew at gmail.com (Pam Mayhew) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 12:48:19 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? In-Reply-To: References: <2be9ae580610171212ia1cec31me1bb9b9043bc9112@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2be9ae580610230948w533e1f22w9da0d1a2823b72fc@mail.gmail.com> Vanessa - Observers are welcome for the films and the courses - the following is information on all the events and film showings. It really is an excellent course (I go whenever I have a chance to observe), and I'm so glad they're dealing with the issue of animal rights. On 10/22/06, Vanessa H wrote: > > I would love to see the film and listen to the talk by the animal rights > lawyer from Toronto (Lesli Bisgould, I assume?), but I'm not in the class. > > Does anyone associated with this activism class know if anybody can > attend? > Thanks so much! > > > >From: "Pam Mayhew" > >Reply-To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, > environment,etc). > >Called & amp; quot; chat& amp; quot;because this is for all kinds > >of frequent interaction." > >To: "For all discussion not animal related (health, environment,etc). > >Called &, amp, quot, chat&, amp, quot,because this is for all kinds > >of frequent interaction." > >Subject: Re: [VegChat] eating, where can i get it? > >Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:12:52 -0400 > > > >Meredith - The Activism Course is showing "Earthling" the Friday before a > >talk by an animal rights lawyer from Toronto. Are you connected with the > > >Activism Course offered by Ottawa U??? I imagine the OPIRG at Ottawa U > >might have the film. Good luck! Pam. > > > >On 10/15/06, Meredith Barrett < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca> wrote: > >> > >>sounds awesome, any idea how i can get it? i'm searching on the > >>internet but so far no luck > >> > >> > >>Mark (SimplyRaw) wrote: > >> > >> > >> >Check out "Eating". The first half is on the health implications of > >> >eating animal products; but the second half of the film deals with > >> >animal rights and environmental issues. Great movie! > >> > > >> >Cheers! Mark > >> > > >> >dr.dreammaker wrote: > >> >> earthling... i haven't seen it yet... but it's supposed to be really > >> >> amazing! > >> >> > >> >> kelly. > >> >> > >> >> On 10/12/06, *Meredith Barrett* < mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hey Guys > >> >> > >> >> I thought I'd send this out to email lala-land in the hopes that > > >> >> someone would have suggestions/ideas. I run the AR group at > >>Carleton > >> >> and we are collaborating with our Sustainability Network on > campus > >>to > >> >> run several animal rights/environmental themed movie nights. I > am > >> >> trying to find movies/documentaries that discuss the impact that > >> >> factory farming has on the environment as well as any other > >>connections > >> >> between AR issues and the environment. > >> >> One idea I had was Peaceable Kingdom. We may also show Meet your > >>Meat > >> >> just for shock value's sake but I am not sure how I feel about > >>that, if > >> >> it is too far from our 'theme'. > >> >> Anyways, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > >> >> Take care everyone, let's keep fighting the good fight! > >> >> Meredith > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> you won't know what hit you. > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >-- > >Pam Mayhew > > _________________________________________________________________ > Try the next generation of search with Windows Live Search today! > > http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline > > -- Pam Mayhew -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061023/66ea1e7f/attachment.html From mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca Mon Oct 23 20:57:11 2006 From: mbarrett at connect.carleton.ca (Meredith Barrett) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:57:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [VegChat] course? Message-ID: <6735150.1161637031741.JavaMail.mbarrett@connect.carleton.ca> great, thanks for the suggestions! i'm going to look in to orderin earthlings and eating. what is this activism course at ottawa u? i've been hearing about it. is it only for ottawa u students? From hockeysk8 at gmail.com Mon Oct 23 22:57:43 2006 From: hockeysk8 at gmail.com (Kevin J. Smith) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:57:43 -0700 Subject: [VegChat] The Organic Myth In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1ee0630e0610231557xd17b7b9w39d93b8c42a357d4@mail.gmail.com> This was a very good article but it wrongly tries to tie increased land resource use on organic farming when that is simply not the case. An organic carrot and a chemical laden carrot take up the same amount of space. In the article, land use problems were always in conjunction with producing meat and dairy products. A meat/dairy based diet simply does not scale. In our attempts to scale meat and dairy production and drive profits we have perverted the concept of farming so far that we can't reverse the practices to anything close to acceptable from a natural/humane/organic perspective. And as such, they are having difficulty meeting the demand for organic meat and dairy products. This further crystallizes in my mind that the only hope for our society is to adopt a plant based diet, if not for ethical reasons then for the simple survival of our own species. On 10/22/06, uHuman wrote: > > The Organic Myth > Pastoral ideals are getting trampled as organic food goes mass market > > http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_42/b4005001.htm > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061023/ee5f83f4/attachment.html From uhuman at gmail.com Fri Oct 27 18:32:03 2006 From: uhuman at gmail.com (uHuman) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:32:03 -0400 Subject: [VegChat] The Organic Myth In-Reply-To: <1ee0630e0610231557xd17b7b9w39d93b8c42a357d4@mail.gmail.com> References: <1ee0630e0610231557xd17b7b9w39d93b8c42a357d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: you're more than likely right ! annoying mind confusing claims, even in interesting articles ! so you're saying so-called farming practices have damaged the earth. did you see this chart of what would happen if there were suddenly no humans around: http://www.treehugger.com/files/doom_1.php i figure 50,000 years about does it. Or we could just treat the earth with respect and live in a healthy environment. u On 10/23/06, Kevin J. Smith wrote: > > This was a very good article but it wrongly tries to tie increased land > resource use on organic farming when that is simply not the case. An > organic carrot and a chemical laden carrot take up the same amount of > space. In the article, land use problems were always in conjunction with > producing meat and dairy products. A meat/dairy based diet simply does not > scale. In our attempts to scale meat and dairy production and drive profits > we have perverted the concept of farming so far that we can't reverse the > practices to anything close to acceptable from a natural/humane/organic > perspective. And as such, they are having difficulty meeting the demand for > organic meat and dairy products. This further crystallizes in my mind that > the only hope for our society is to adopt a plant based diet, if not for > ethical reasons then for the simple survival of our own species. > > On 10/22/06, uHuman wrote: > > > > The Organic Myth > > Pastoral ideals are getting trampled as organic food goes mass market > > > > http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/06_42/b4005001.htm > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061027/d5620ee2/attachment.html From em664 at freenet.carleton.ca Mon Oct 30 11:29:32 2006 From: em664 at freenet.carleton.ca (David Wardell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 06:29:32 -0500 Subject: [VegChat] Toxic mould in wheat In-Reply-To: References: <1ee0630e0610231557xd17b7b9w39d93b8c42a357d4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4545E21C.1080204@ncf.ca> Oh don't worry someone said, the Canadian government is looking after this for sure! Maybe we should eat eat hot ceral only, would the heat from cooking it help? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Toxic mould a threat to wheat exports, scientist says Canadian Press GUELPH, Ont. ? Other countries could stop accepting Canadian produce unless we find a way to reduce the levels of a toxic mould found in wheat and oats, experts warn. While Canada produces great wheat, we ought to follow the lead of European health officials, who are tightening regulations on the level of toxins in food, said University of Guelph chemistry professor Richard Manderville. A news release issued by the university said many toxins are eliminated when wheat is processed into bread or cereal, but it's still not enough to meet international standards. In January, 58,000 tonnes of Canadian durum wheat were confiscated in Italy because officials believed it had three times the allowable limit of ochratoxin under European standards. Related to this article Latest Comments Comments The naturally occurring mycotoxin produced when fungi attaches to grain crops has been found to cause cancer as well as immune system and reproductive problems in animals. Scientists don't know how ochratoxin causes cancer in animals, but Prof. Manderville believes once it gets into the system, it can metabolize, attach to DNA and initiate a mutation that causes the disease. So far, mycotoxins have only been identified as a probable human carcinogen, and it's not clear whether the human body will react to it the same way rabbits have, he said. While a recent Health Canada study found ochratoxin is present in half of all Canadian breakfast cereals, government officials said the amount is very small. ?Mycotoxins are unavoidable in cereals, but the public should be aware of them,? said Health Canada spokesman Paul Duchesne. ?They're below a level where you would see a health impact on humans.? Mr. Duchesne said Health Canada will look at imposing certain health standards for mycotoxin levels in foods, and that an information campaign to better inform consumers, agricultural producers and processors is possible. From v at vaalea.com Tue Oct 31 06:39:37 2006 From: v at vaalea.com (vaalea) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:39:37 -0500 Subject: [VegChat] Global warming will devastate economy & Fast Food Nation Message-ID: <009201c6fcb7$5908ee10$6501a8c0@v> see previews and whatnot from the Nov 17 release of 'fast food nation' the movie http://www.myspace.com/fastfoodnation http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061030/global_warming_061030/20061030?hub=CTVNewsAt11 Global warming will devastate economy: report Updated Mon. Oct. 30 2006 12:26 PM ET CTV.ca News Staff Global warming could devastate the world economy on a scale we haven't seen since the world wars and the Great Depression, a major report by a British economist says. Sir Nicholas Stern, the report's author and a senior government economist, said unchecked global warming could shrink the global economy by 20 per cent -- and cost a whopping $7 trillion in lost output. However, taking action now would cost just one per cent of global gross domestic product, Sterns says in his 700-page study. British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who introduced the report today, called for "bold and decisive action" to cut carbon emissions and stem the worst of temperature rise. He said the Stern Review showed scientific evidence that global warming was "overwhelming" and its consequences "disastrous." British Treasury chief Gordon Brown, who commissioned the report, said the U.K. would lead international efforts to tackle climate change and establish "an economy that is both pro-growth and pro-green." Stern's report is seen as the first major effort to quantify the economic cost of climate change -- and the first major contribution to the global warming debate by an economist, rather than a scientist. "Our actions over the coming decades could create risks of major disruption to economic and social activity, later in this century and in the next, on a scale similar to those associated with the great wars and the economic depression of the first half of the 20th century," he writes. Consequences If no action is taken, says Stern, up to 200 million people could become refugees as their homes are hit by drought or flood from rising sea levels. Further, up to 40 per cent of wildlife species could become extinct, and melting glaciers could cause water shortages for one sixth of the world's population, the report says. "It is not in doubt that, if the science is right, the consequences for our planet are literally disastrous,'' said Blair. "This disaster is not set to happen in some science fiction future many years ahead, but in our lifetime. "Unless we act now ... these consequences, disastrous as they are, will be irreversible.'' Stern's solution Despite the gloomy forecast, Stern said he is "optimistic" that if the world powers act "strongly and urgently," the effects can be minimized. "Whilst there is much more we need to understand -- both in science and economics -- we know enough now to be clear about the magnitude of the risks, the timescale for action and how to act effectively," he said. Stern said the world must shift to a "low-carbon global economy'' through measures including taxation, regulation of greenhouse gas emissions and carbon trading. Brown said former U.S. Vice President Al Gore, who has emerged as a powerful environmental activist and spokesperson, would advise the government on climate change. Brown called for Europe to cut its carbon emissions by 30 per cent by 2020; and 60 per cent by 2050. He also said the British government is considering new "green taxes" on cheap airline flights, fuel and high-emission vehicles. The "green" initiatives, he said, provide an opportunity "for new markets, for new jobs, new technologies, new exports where companies, universities and social enterprises in Britain can lead the world". Stern's report is expected to increase pressure on the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush to step up its efforts to fight global warming. The Bush administration never approved the Kyoto climate-change accord. Stern is a former chief economist of the World Bank. With files from The Associated Press -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ottawaveg.com/pipermail/vegchat/attachments/20061031/c13d8fb5/attachment.html