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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">My sister lives on a dairy farm and I wrote this
in response to her email which was in response to my email of John Robbins
book's fact and some famous veg quotes.... which I had tacked on to the end of
my reply to another sister who was mad at PETA's anti-fishing comic book...
(well I said WHY I thought she was over-reacting and tacked the other stuff on
the end because it was just before the Ecofair and I was working on it) anyway I
didn't start it! my third sister on a veg farm (basically) with "a bull
calf on the side" also said something but I just haven't had the time yet to get
to it.... </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">Anything you think I may want to add????
Otherwise you may just find it interesting... I'll be sending it out to all them
soon.... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">I'll double-check spelling later =0(</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">>I've got to defend my vocation here. This
information you sent is so one sided that it all has to be taken with a heaping
pile of salt. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">For example, the "waste" produced by livestock in
California is used for fertilizer no doubt, as it is elsewhere, and the threat
it creates for the drinking water is likely no greater that the threat of the
water not being treated properly. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>It's not just about drinking water, but
healthy rivers, lakes, and the resources needed to clean the water,
etc.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"However, agriculture is the leading source of remaining impairments in
the Nation's rivers and lakes and a major source of impairments to</EM>
<EM>estuaries. <A
href="http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/cleanwater/">http://www.ers.usda.gov/Features/cleanwater/</A></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"In rural Canada, most people rely on private water supplies such as
wells and dugouts." (How is private water "treated properly"??)
</EM><A
href="http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/water/wtesting_e.htm"><EM>http://www.agr.gc.ca/pfra/water/wtesting_e.htm</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>"Nitrate levels in many English waters, both
ground and surface waters, are increasing. Nitrate pollution is of concern
because it has to be removed before water can be supplied to consumers, and it
can harm the water environment. Over 70% of nitrate enters water from
agricultural land.The following pages provide details of action to reduce
agricultural nitrate pollution, which is one aspect of the broader problem of
diffuse pollution from agriculture." </EM><A
href="http://www.defra.gov.uk/Environment/water/quality/nitrate/default.htm"><EM>http://www.defra.gov.uk/Environment/water/quality/nitrate/default.htm</EM></A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><A
href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3559542.stm"><EM>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3559542.stm</EM></A><EM>:
World water supplies will not be enough for our descendants to enjoy the sort of
diet the West eats now, experts say. </EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><A
href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/world/2000/world_water_crisis/default.stm"><EM>http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/world/2000/world_water_crisis/default.stm</EM></A><EM> Ninety-five
percent of the United States' fresh water is underground. As farmers in the
Texan High Plains pump groundwater faster than rain replenishes it, the water
tables are dropping. North America's largest aquifer, the Ogallala, is being
depleted at a rate of 12 billion cubic metres (bcm) a year. Total depletion to
date amounts to some 325 bcm, a volume equal to the annual flow of 18 Colorado
Rivers. The Ogallala stretches from Texas to South Dakota, and waters one fifth
of US irrigated land. Many farmers in the High Plains are now turning away from
irrigated agriculture, as they become aware of the hazards of overpumping, and
realise water is not in endless supply.</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow">>Cattle are very efficient really, providing
not only fertilizer for next years meal, but supplying us with milk and
ultimately beef as well!!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>How much beef eaten comes from dairy cows?
How much from non-mature dairy cows? Is too much manure produced? How does
manure compare to earthworm castings as a fertilizer/pollution potential?? There
are studies being done on prions (Mad cow, etc) existing in landfills,
wastewater.... there is still debate about it, but as this website says: <A
href="http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/84/i09/8409prions.html">http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/84/i09/8409prions.html</A> "A
method to extract and quantitatively detect prions from soil samples has been
devised by a team of scientists at two <A
href="http://www.international.inra.fr/" target=_blank>National Institute for
Agricultural Research (INRA)</A> labs in France (<A
title="Fate of Prions in Soil: Adsorption and Extraction by Electroelution of Recombinant Ovine Prion Protein from Montmorillonite and Natural Soils"
href="http://pubs.acs.org/cgi-bin/sample.cgi/esthag/asap/html/es0516965.html"
target=_blank><EM>Environ. Sci. Technol.</EM> <STRONG>2006,</STRONG> <EM>40,
</EM>1497</A>). The technique could be "a good starting point" to help identify
and map prion-contaminated farmland as well as to monitor the fate of prions
over time, notes lead author Peggy Rigou.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>Prions are malformed proteins that are
thought to be the infectious agents responsible for transmissible spongiform
encephalopathies (TSEs), such as mad cow disease, scrapie in sheep, and chronic
wasting disease in deer. Prions can persist in soil for years, and some animals
are suspected of contracting TSEs by drinking water or grazing on ground that
was exposed to the carcasses of dead animals; by-products from animal
processing; or animal manure, urine, or blood.</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>A potential method to detect prions in the
blood of live animals was reported last year (<A
href="http://pubs.acs.org/cen/news/83/i36/8336notw7.html">C&EN, Sept. 5,
2005, page 15</A>), but until now, a method to analyze prions in soil had not
been reported, Rigou says. The researchers studied the adsorption and desorption
of a recombinant prion protein and other proteins on clay and natural soil
samples to understand prion retention mechanisms. They determined that
adsorption occurs mainly via the N-terminal domain of the
protein........"</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Arial Narrow"><EM>They are also studying the same thing with
antibotics contained in manure fertilizer which could find itself in the
food on the dinner table. <A
href="http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/news/ng.asp?n=64069-antibiotics-organic-manure%20">http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/news/ng.asp?n=64069-antibiotics-organic-manure%20</A> "Antibiotics
given to livestock can end up in vegetables and pose a health threat to
consumers, according to a study looking at the use of animal manure as a
fertilizer."</EM></FONT><FONT face="Arial Narrow"></DIV></FONT><FONT
face="Arial Narrow">
<DIV><BR>>The very first set of statistics you put up provides the perfect
solution to the whole world hunger dilemma:<BR>Number of underfed and
malnourished people in the world: 1.2 billion <BR>Number of overfed and
malnourished people in the world: 1.2 billion<BR>I assume you meant
over-nourished or something in the second line. <BR><BR><I>mal·nour·ished
(măl-nűr'ĭsht, -nŭr'-) adj. <STRONG>Affected by improper nutrition</STRONG> or
an insufficient diet.<BR></I><BR>>So all we have to do is distribute the
excess food instead of having people pig out, and we can have our beef and eat
it too! And if we get rid of those rats and other pests who eat so much of the
worlds grain, that would help a lot too.<BR><BR><I>I assume you mean reduce
overpopulation and not drive to extinction. That stat on world hunger is only
one tiny aspect. We should probably backtrack anyway if we were able to preserve
more of the grain. You mentioned the rainforests... what can we do to reconvert
such land to it's original state if we didn't need to use it, etc. we can't
go around eliminating all the species that happen to consume the same food that
we do.... </I></DIV>
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<DIV>>Here's a quote from an article recently printed in the
Citizen:<BR>"...And look at the Chinese! Eating soy for centuries! They don't
have heart attacks and get cancer till they come to the decadent West! On the
other hand, they don't seem to respect soy much. In Chinese "to eat tofu" means
a grope.<BR><BR><EM>The word "meat" in America also has a similar type of double
meaning, yet majority of Americans still eat it???</EM><BR><EM>meat (mēt) <BR>n.
<BR>6. Vulgar Slang. <BR>The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
<BR>The genitals.<BR></EM><EM>Tofu has long been the most widely used soyfood in
the world. In East Asia it has much the same importance that meat, milk, and
cheese have for people in Western countries. Worldwide the tofu industry is very
large. In 1982 it consisted of an estimated 245,000 manufacturers, including
30,000 in Japan, 200,000 in the People's Republic of China, 11,000 in Indonesia,
2,500 in Korea, 1,500 in Taiwan, and 225 in the Western world. The world's
largest factories, located in Japan, make over 50 tonnes (metric tons) of tofu a
day (15,000 tonnes a year). and they don't respect it?<A
href="http://www.fengshuitours.com/sfc/NFsoyfoods361.asp"><EM>http://www.fengshuitours.com/sfc/NFsoyf<WBR>oods361.asp</EM></A><BR>Grace
Young, a Chinese-American food writer, says that tofu is one of the most highly
honored foods in Chinese culture because of its very plainness......<BR></EM><A
href="http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=1367"><EM>http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/S<WBR>T/db/read.php?idx=1367</EM></A><BR><EM>From
a book called 'Food in China - A Cultural and Historical Inquiry' by Frederick
J. Simoons. <BR>This is an excerpt on soybeans, p .71<BR>"There are compelling
reasons why the soybean (known today as ta-tou, "greater bean") should have
gained importance in China. For one, it yields more usable protein per acre than
other common cultivated plants, wheether legumes, cereals, or others. It also
contributes roughly four to eighteen times as much usable protein per acre as
could be gained by producing milk, eggs, or meat. This means that soybean is a
very cheap source of protein. In addition, soy protein is of good biological
value. The soybean also has a good store of certain B vitamins, calcium,
phosphorus, and iron. Unluke most legumes, it is rich in oil. All this makes it
an excellent crop for a country like China, with a shortage of pasture and
arable land. The soybean's suitability is further enhanced by its
nitrogen-fixing abilities which have led it to be included in various crop
rotations, to the great long-term benefit of soil fertility in China. A final
factor in the soybean's success was the Buddhist commitment to vegetarianism,
which led monks to create tasty soybean analogues to flesh foods, thereby
further encouraging use of the plant (A. K. Smith and S. J. Circle, 1972:
11-12)."<BR>p. 87<BR>"Bean curd or tofu (tou-fu) is a product said to have been
known in the Han [roughly 220 BC - 220 AD] times, though literary evidence
suggests that it originated late in T'ang times or early in the Sung. It is made
from soy milk with precipitating agents such as vinegar or gypsum, and is an
essential Chinese food, especially critical in vegetarian diets. Bean curd is
low in cost but high in protein of good biological value. It contains
substantial amounts of lysine and certain other essential amino acids; it is
easy to digest; and it is rich in minerals, especially calcium, and in certain
vitamins. The dietary role of tofu in East Asia has been compared to that of
bread in Western diet..."</EM><BR><BR>>The Chinese emphasize fermented soy -
soy sauce, miso. They eat far more protein, i.e., pork, than tofu. Only Buddhist
monks substitute tofu for meat because tofu, apparently, lowers libido.<I>
</I></DIV>
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<DIV><EM>And they also avoid garlic and onion and leek for the same reason, but
most veg*n people eat those happily.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"Others, particularly from China and Vietnam, refrain from eating the
Five Pungent Spices such as garlic, onion and leek, because they are considered
to increase one’s sexual desire and anger. "</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.faithandfood.com/Buddhism.php"><EM>http://www.faithandfood.com/Buddhism.php</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>and anyway, I have not heard veg*ns complain of this problem. I think
the only time it could be a problem, is when too many soy
<U>suppliments</U> (isoflavone concentrate) are consumed providing a person
with MUCH more then they would normally consume in food form. Also, don't forget
that soy is not the only food high in phytoestrogen. and also there are plenty
of omnis that experience low libido. AskMen.com's list of 11 foods to increase
libido list oyster, eggs, and liver (yuck blah yuck)..... the rest are all yummy
food that veg*</EM><EM>ns enjoy.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><I>></I>Here, however, we are trying to substitute tofu for meat. The
studies that showed soy lowering bad cholesterol sent soy soaring. By the '90s
soy was being processed into much of our food - oil, cakes, cookies, ice cream.
Most supermarket bread contains soy, U.S. school meals have soy added to
hamburgers and lasagne to lower the fat content. But soy is fattening, </DIV>
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<DIV><EM>soy is fattening?? compared to animal products or like, lettuce??
haha.. ok... like NUTS are fattening? (you want to compare soy to meat with
regards to fattening??)</EM></DIV>
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<DIV>>and there are studies that show the plant estrogens in soy that lower
cholesterol also change hormonal balance (a Swiss study estimated that 100 grams
of soy provide the estrogenic equivalent of the birth control pill<I> </I></DIV>
<DIV><I></I> </DIV>
<DIV><EM>The quote is actually 100 grams of soy PROTEIN which is an estimate
equivalent of 7-8 soyburgers(?). and again it's phytoestrogen and not estrogen
which do not work in exactly the same ways. Robbins addresses it here
in regards to infant formula </EM><A
href="http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm"><EM>http://www.foodrevolution.org/what_about_soy.htm</EM></A><EM> (and
also in every other regard)... </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>Researchers believe phytoestrogens found in soy may help protect
against breast cancer because phytoestrogens compete with estrogen in the body
to bind to estrogen receptors on cells. Since estrogen triggers breast cell
reproduction, some researchers believe that a higher amount of estrogen in the
body may increase a woman’s risk for breast cancer. Because phytoestrogens found
in soy foods may block estrogen from reaching estrogen receptors, pre-menopausal
women who include soy in their diet may decrease their risk of breast cancer.
</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/soy.asp"><EM>http://imaginis.com/breasthealth/soy.asp</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"Soy is a phytoestrogen and researchers believe there is some
connection between that blocking the man's testosterone from feeding a prostate
tumour," says Casselman.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://bodyandhealth.canada.com/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=8408&news_channel_id=158&channel_id=158&relation_id=12095"><EM>http://bodyandhealth.canada.com/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=8408&news_channel_id=158&channel_id=158&relation_id=12095</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>phytoestrogen is much weaker than human estrogen, and so when the body
produces too much strong estrogen, the phytoestrogen competes for receptors, and
will lower the overall level of estrogen. On the other hand, if there is not
enough estrogen, though it is is weak the phytoestrogen will increase levels in
the body. Men who eat soy aren't lacking in testosterone, </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"However, recent research comparing people following various diets has
found vegans (no animal products) have 8% more testosterone than
lacto-ovo-vegetarians, and 13% more than people on the standard Western diet
(with meat and dairy). (22) (Fortunately, this extra male hormone is kept safely
bound with a protein to prevent over-stimulation of the tissues, including the
prostate.) <BR><A
href="http://www.cabrillo.edu/~pkaplan/misc/dietandathleticperformance.html">http://www.cabrillo.edu/~pkaplan/misc/dietandathleticperformance.html</A></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>now, what about animal products? Premarin, an estrogen replacement
therapy extracted from pregnant horse urine, acts like human estogen does? not
like phytoestrogen.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"Extra estrogens end up in milk because farmers have dairy cattle
impregnated to boost milk production. Barnard reminds us that "excess estrogen
is well-known for making breast cancer cells multiply." Because milk has no
fiber at all, and fiber is part of nature's way of eliminating excess estrogens,
the fat in milk-like fat in any food-rapidly produces excess estrogen in a
woman's body." </EM><A
href="http://www.bcaction.org/Pages/SearchablePages/1997Newsletters/Newsletter042D.html"><EM>http://www.bcaction.org/Pages/SearchablePages/1997Newsletters/Newsletter042D.html</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>block the absorption of other nutrients and affect child
development.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM>If dairy products are consumed in a diet high in animal protein, any
potential benefit for increased bone density would be undermined. That's because
animal protein, including that from dairy products, may leach more calcium from
the bones than is ingested, </EM><A
href="http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/96/11.14.96/osteoporosis.html"><EM>http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicle/96/11.14.96/osteoporosis.html</EM></A><A
href="http://www.livrite.com/calcium.htm"></A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>>Breast cancer survivors are advised to avoid soy.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM>Again, most places say it's fine, but don't increase your
soy intake or take concentrated supplements.</EM><BR><BR>>And the bad
news keeps coming. In January, an American Heart Association study raised doubts
about soy protein's vaunted efficacy in lowering cholesterol. <BR><BR><I><A
href="http://www.medpagetoday.com/PrimaryCare/DietNutrition/tb1/2534">http://www.medpagetoday.com/Primary<WBR>Care/DietNutrition/tb1/2534</A></I></DIV>
<DIV><EM>In its new statement, the AHA said it found no benefit for soy protein
or isoflavones in lowering LDL cholesterol, improving HDL or triglycerides, or
lowering of blood pressure. </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>Nevertheless, the AHA said the jury is still out on the heart-healthy
potential of soy food products like tofu, soy butter, soy nuts and soy burgers.
</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>Soy food products are low in saturated fats, and high in
polyunsaturated fats, fiber, vitamins, and minerals -- all of which suggest that
tofu and soy burgers could be important elements in a heart healthy diet. Soy
products, the AHA said, could be used to replace foods that are high in
saturated fats and cholesterol. ........</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>The AHA, therefore, concluded that “the use of isoflavone supplements
in food or pills is not recommended.”</EM> <BR><BR>>All these effects are
dependent on how much soy you eat - remember, lab tests mean an animal is
stuffed with much more food that a human is expected to eat. Trouble is, how
much soy are we eating? Perhaps we're o.d.-ing without knowing it, considering
the fact that soy is in thousands of products. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><EM>so are animal products, when you actually start reading
ingredients.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>animal studies can't be completely trusted either.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/buav-animal-tests-fail-predict-drug-trial-disaster-$17094898.htm"><EM>http://www.politics.co.uk/press-releases/buav-animal-tests-fail-predict-drug-trial-disaster-$17094898.htm</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>The recent drug trial disaster that occurred in March 2006 involving 8
healthy volunteers has raised not only concerns over human clinical trial
protocols but more fundamentally the reliability of animal tests. Now that it
has been confirmed by the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency
(MHRA) that the dreadful effects were not due to contamination of the drug or a
mistake with dosing levels (1), it is clear that the fault lies with the animal
tests. “…this product showed a pharmacological effect in man which was not seen
in preclinical tests in animals at much higher doses”. ...
differences between animal and human cells mean that the treatment can
potentially have enormously different effects...
<DIV>The basic lesson of these studies, as reported, is that they produced data
pointing in different directions – with different species and animals in
different states of health responding in different ways. This made predicting
the human response far more difficult and shows how the use of animals confused,
rather than clarified the situation – leading, it appears, to this disastrous
event. </DIV></EM><A
href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/03/21/international/i062039S08.DTL&type=health"><EM>http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/03/21/international/i062039S08.DTL&type=health</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>They were chosen because they were fit and healthy, but minutes after
being injected with a test drug designed to combat leukemia and other diseases,
the men went into convulsions as their internal organs began to fail. Two men
were still in a coma Tuesday and four others were seriously ill but improving
after participating in the trial last week. The drug sent the men into vomiting
fits; they removed their shirts in panic as their bodies seized up with pain.
...Raste Khan, 23, one of two patients who had been given a placebo. He
described the gruesome scene in the hospital ward. "It felt like we stepped into
some sort of horror film," Khan told The Associated Press. "The three other men
in my ward started vomiting, then they began to fall in and out of
consciousness. The person on my left was begging doctors to help him. I was
really scared and was just waiting for it to start happening to me." After
taking the drug the men lapsed into comas as their organs failed, forcing
doctors to put them on organ support machines, said Dr. Ganesh Suntharalingam,
who was treating the men at Northwick Park hospital in London. The Medicines and
Healthcare products Regulatory Agency — which authorized the trial — said there
was nothing unusual about the results of laboratory and animal tests on the drug
or the methodology for the human trials provided by Waltham, Massachusetts-based
Parexel and the other maker, TeGenero AG of Wuerzburg, Germany.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>....and heck... chocolate is lethal for dogs.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM> </DIV>
<DIV>>Even the environmentalists are turning anti-soy. Once soy was welcomed
as a soil enricher. Now soy growing in Brazil is threatening the rain forests.
Remember when beef cattle were doing that?"</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><I></I>
<DIV><EM>It is STILL beef cattle doing that!! </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"In the wake of the Mad Cow epidemic in Europe, which was caused mainly
by the use of ground up animal bones in livestock feed, European farmers
searched for a non-animal based protein-rich feed for livestock. Soy meal was
the perfect alternative. However, at least 50 percent of the US soy crop is
grown using agricultural giant's Monsanto's genetically modified Roundup Ready
soy, which is resistant to the herbicide Roundup (also, not coincidentally, a
Monsanto product). The European Union and Japan ban the sale of GM foods, so the
farmers needed an alternative soy source. Brazil's exports have been growing to
meet this new European demand for non-genetically altered soy. </EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT face="Arial Narrow" size=3>The soy
sector now comprises 6% of Brazilian GDP. Most soybeans are grown on the
cerrados, or savannas, in the southern part of Brazil, but now the growing of
soybeans is spreading to the forested North. About 13 percent of the total
worldwide soy harvest is either used directly as seed or processed by specific
food industries which use the whole soybean (examples are tofu, soy sauce, and
other meat and dairy substitutes). An estimated 87 percent is exported to the
European Union in the form of soy cakes, used for cattle, poultry, or pig
feed.</FONT> </FONT><FONT face="Arial Narrow">"</FONT></FONT><BR></EM><A
href="http://www.fguide.org/Bulletin/soy.htm"><EM>http://www.fguide.org/Bulletin/soy.htm</EM></A><BR><EM>And
this is from the Canadian Food Inspection Agency</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>"Livestock Producers and the Feed Ban: Canadian producers may only feed
their ruminants approved animal protein products such as pure porcine, equine,
poultry, and fish. Banned as ingredients in ruminant feeds are "prohibited
materials" - protein including meat and bone meal from mammals other than pigs
and horses."</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/feebet/feebete.shtml"><EM>http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/anima/feebet/feebete.shtml</EM></A></DIV>
<DIV><EM>and again... WWF report on Brazil soy 2003 </EM><A
href="http://www.bothends.org/strategic/soy25.pdf"><EM>http://www.bothends.org/strategic/soy25.pdf</EM></A><EM>:</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>The consumption of soy and its derivative products in Brazil has been
growing steadily throughout the 1990s, but the vast majority of production is
exported in the form of soy grain or, to a lesser<BR>extent, as “first level”
processed by-products (meal and oil). Production is likely to increase to meet
this demand, fuelled in part by an increase in demand for animal protein such as
chicken, pork and beef, much of which is fed a staple diet that includes high
concentrations of soy meal. In addition, demand from European markets has risen
as a result of protein substitution from meat and bone towards soy and other
proteins. This is due in part to bans on the use of meat and bone meal in animal
food in the European Union (EU) as a result of recent outbreaks of Bovine
Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE/”mad cow” disease)....</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>More here: <A
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,,1747904,00.html">http://www.guardian.co.uk/globalisation/story/0,,1747904,00.html</A> "The
7,000km journey that links Amazon destruction to fast food
"</EM><EM><BR></DIV></EM>
<DIV>>We know that obesity is a growing problem. Does it perhaps co-relate
with the increased intake of Soy? I'd love to see studies on that.<BR><BR><I>I
invite you to research information on that.</I></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=obesity+soy&meta"><EM>http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=obesity+soy&meta</EM></A><EM>=</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>A single nutrient found in <B>soy</B> products elicits changes in gene
behavior that permanently reduce an embryo's risk of becoming obese later
</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><STRONG>Soy</STRONG>, flaxseed can help fight diabetes and
<B>obesity</B> The phytoestrogens in both <B>soy</B> and flaxseed could help
fight <B>obesity</B> and diabetes,</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>etc (btw, flax is also one of those things high in
phytoestrogen)</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM>I hope you appreciate the care I took to get links/info from neutral
organizations though the following are very good as well:</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.madcowboy.com/"><EM>http://www.madcowboy.com/</EM></A><EM> -
This website is about Howard Lyman (4th generation cattle rancher and vegan),
his inspiring life, the Oprah [Winfrey vs Texas Cattlemen] Trial, the "Mad
Cowboy" Feature Documentary, the book "Mad Cowboy," Voice for a Viable Future,
his speaking schedule, and over 350 REFERENCED FACTOIDS for anyone to use about
Mad Cow Disease, Vegetarianism, the Environment, Human Health, and Animal
Rights.</EM></DIV>
<DIV><A
href="http://www.askfarmerbrown.org/"><EM>http://www.askfarmerbrown.org/</EM></A><EM> Another
one raised on the family farm...</EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM>and this one is nasty </EM><A
href="http://www.mindfully.org/Food/Power-Steer-Pollan31mar02.htm"><EM>http://www.mindfully.org/Food/Power-Steer-Pollan31mar02.htm</EM></A><EM> i
didn't even read the whole thing.</EM></DIV></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>